Why men have stopped singing in church

  • Worship band in the darkIt happened again yesterday. I attended one of those hip, contemporary churches — and almost no one sang. Worshippers stood obediently as the band rocked out, the smoke machine belched and lights flashed. Lyrics were projected on the screen, but almost no one sang them. A few women were trying, but I saw only one male (other than the worship leader) making the attempt.

    Last month I blogged, “Have Christians Stopped Singing?” I did some research, and learned that congregational singing has ebbed and flowed over the centuries. It reached a high tide when I was a young man – but that tide may be going out again. And that could be bad news for men.

    First, a very quick history of congregational singing.

    Before the Reformation, laypersons were not allowed to sing in church. Sacred music was performed by professionals (priests and cantors), played on complex instruments (pipe organs), and sung in an obscure language (Latin).

    Reformers gave worship back to the people, in the form of congregational singing. They composed simple tunes with lyrics that people could easily memorize. Some of the tunes came out of local taverns.

    A technological advance – the printing press – led to an explosion of congregational singing. The first hymnal was printed in 1532, and soon a few dozen hymns became standards across Christendom. Hymnals slowly grew over the next four centuries. By the mid 20th century every Protestant church had a hymnal of about 1000 songs, 250 of which were regularly sung. In the church of my youth, everyone picked up a hymnal and sang every verse of every song.

    About a decade ago, a new technological advance – the computer controlled projection screen – entered America’s sanctuaries. Suddenly churches could project song lyrics for all to see. Hymnals became obsolete. No longer were Christians limited to 1,000 songs handed down by our elders.

    At first, churches simply projected the songs everyone knew – hymns and a few simple praise songs that had come out of the Jesus Movement. People sang robustly.

    But that began to change about three years ago. Worship leaders brought in new songs each week. They drew from the radio, the Internet, and Worship conferences. Some began composing their own songs, performing them during worship, and selling them on CD after church.

    Years ago, worship leaders used to prepare their flocks when introducing a new song. “We’re going to do a new song for you now. We’ll go through it twice, and then we invite you to join in.”

    That kind of coaching is rare today. Songs get switched out so frequently today that it’s impossible to learn them. People can’t sing songs they’ve never heard. And with no musical notes to follow, how is a person supposed to pick up the tune?

    And so the church has returned to the 14th century. Worshippers stand mute as professional-caliber musicians play complex instruments, and sing in an obscure language. Martin Luther is turning over in his grave.

    What does this mean for men? On the positive side, men no longer feel pressure to sing in church. Men who are poor readers or poor singers no longer have to fumble through hymnals, sing archaic lyrics or read a musical staff.

    But the negatives are huge. Men are doers, and singing was one of the things we used to do together in church. It was a chance to participate. Now, with congregational singing going away, and communion no longer a weekly ordinance, there’s only one avenue left for men to participate in the service – the offering. Is this really the message we want to send to men? Sit there, be quiet, and enjoy the show. And don’t forget to give us money.

    There’s nothing wrong with professionalism and quality in church music.The problem isn’t the rock band, or the lights, or the smoke machine. The key here is familiarity. When that super-hip band performed a hymn, the crowd responded. People sang. Even the men.

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    February 7th, 2011 | David Murrow | 118 Comments | Tags: , , , , ,

About The Author

David Murrow

David Murrow is the director of Church for Men, an organization that helps congregations reach more men and boys. In his day job, David works as a television producer and writer. He's the author of three books. He lives in Alaska with his wife, three children, two grandchildren and a dachshund named Pepper.

  • Michael Farris

    There are only two problems with most contemporary “worship” songs–the melody and the lyrics. The lyrics are not only shallow, but far too many songs are songs about singing. I want to worship. I want to praise. I want to sing. Such lyrics are about you and the song and not about God. The lyrics in general make the old chorus of “Do Lord” look like a doctrinal treatise. And then there is the “melody.” The melodies are grey and bland just like the secular music of our day. There is an insufficient range of notes and lack of sweep and beauty.

    In short, today’s music is about self-expression just like the music of the world. When it is about self, ultimately it is weak and shallow at best because the human heart is desperately wicked who can know it?

    Music used to be about God and the glory and beauty of His works. Such music has the prospect of truth and beauty because only God is true and beautiful.

  • Chris

    Although I agree that some churches change the songs too often and there is not enough continuity, maybe theproblem is more that people aren’t learning to actually worship? For me the issue of hymnal or modern song is irrelevant, the song content is the relevant factor. Some of the old songs are so dry and stale but others are amazing, reminding us of the wonder and glory of our God. Some new songs are very shallow but others are profound. I guess maybe it’s that people are just not in the habit of singing much in their secular lives and this carries through – they don’t (men, women, teenagers & children) don’t want to appear ‘uncool’ and so they don’t sing. I agree with some of the comments about society today being full of ‘me’ism’ and worship of our God just doesn’t work if we are too busy thinking of ourselves and our surroudings. We need to try and cultivate an attitude of worship in our hearts, more consistency and actual leadership from the worship leaders and more teaching about being in God’s presense and seeking His presence in the message.

  • Sonya

    Oh gosh, if Don is considering “Shout to the Lord” to be possibly old to some people, then I am a dinosaur!

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  • Sonya

    I moved to a ‘Jesus people’ church as a child and on of the things we kept for at least 20 years, was that the song leader- who perhaps played a guitar- and later on a few other singers, were on the platform, but the rest of the musicians played from the side, facing the worship leader as part of the congregation. Drums, piano, brass, strings,winds, even autoharps ifyou remember those(!) a really eclectic muddle of instruments. By placement we were part of the congregation, but we helped lead, since we practised with the song leaders before the service as well. Musically and acoustically it had some problems, but we had huge participation from a large number of musicians, male and female, some of who were not skilled or confident enough to be ‘up front’, some that were semi professional, and we were not a distraction when we made little errors, or got lost, etc.Most of us also learned to play by ear, since in the 70′s none of this music was written down, and half of our crew didnm’t know how to read music anyhow. Of all the things I missed when I moved, that aspect of wroship involvment was one of the biggest losses for me.

  • Sonya

    I well remember a week in the church of my youth wherre we hit that sweet spot- and we sang the same song OVER and OVER- sang, danced marched, etc. and God’s presence was palpable. But the next week the song leader tried to manipulate the circumstances to generate the same effect and I wanted to run screaing formthe building. Never forgot that lesson!

  • Sonya

    I may be wrong but I think it was the salvation army too, that took popular tunes from bars and taverns and changed the words.

  • Bluezomebie

    This is a pet peeve of mine. Words alone are not what a song is made of. Imagine color without lines, eggs without a pot to cook them in and roads without maps. You cannot sing if you do not have the music. Even for those who do not know how to read the notes they can see the music goes up or down or takes up the whole space so they feel more comfortable trying the new song.
    SO PLEASE if you are going to project your words onto the wall put the music up there too! At least those of us who enjoy singing at church will be able to make a go of it confidently and the others will then maybe chime in.

  • Sonya

    As in all things in Christianity, the key is balance, and for leadership to know their congregations. But I agree that worship is worship, not evangelism.
    Also, when I helped get a youth praise band started in our small rural church, I gave them 2 rules- no more than one new song, and they HAD to do at least one hymn each week they led. If they wanted the older members of the congregation to learn their new songs, they had to learn some of the old stuff. And boy, did we have some fun with them. I still do hear my own teen agers spontaneously sing some of those old hymns, and the ones we dressed up, are among the church songs that they love. Who isn’t stirred to hear a 14 year old say they LOVE the hymn- “O, the Deep, Deep, love of Jesus” ? or “Be Thou My Vision”

  • Sonya

    I had a pastor once, in the era of the overhead projector who stopped in the middle of a song at the close of the service and said “Ok, I am pretty sure we all know this song. Let’s stop worshipping the overhead projector screen and really turn out hearts and faces towards God” Still love that phrase and think of it whenever I am frustrated with people complaining aobut not being able to see the screen, or the words being too small, etc.
    Now that we have a projector, I still often use the Hymn book when we do hymns, because the people who can read music will get engaged in trying the harmonies andthe bass lines and all that fun stuff, which they don’t if just the lyrics are up.

  • JT

    the older generation may not be the larger group of the ones in the congergation but I have observed they are the ones you can depend on to pay their tithe that allows the bills to be paid. That includes the pastor and worship leader,s salary!!!

  • JT

    amen! I have observed the very same thing.

  • http://www.churchformen.com David Murrow

    Kristen, women aren’t to blame. I’d guess that upwards of 90 percent of worship leaders are men. This column really isn’t about feminizing of worship at all. I”m merely pointing out that, by introducing new music all the time, we’re discouraging men from singing. As you say in your first paragraph, this problem affects both men and women. The women seem a little braver about singing songs they don’t know – but only a little.

  • http://www.churchformen.com David Murrow

    How does one “learn to actually worship?” Who teaches this?

  • http://displaced-men.com Jim Parks

    Van, I disagree with you statement “Real worshipers will worship no matter what the song…” That just is not so, I am a believer and love Jesus with all my heart. However, I cringe at some of the music used to lead me into the presence of God. There is a lot of contemporary music that focuses on the person and not God. The focus point of worship is to usher the congregation into the presence of God not to focus on the need of the person.

  • http://www.churchformen.com David Murrow

    Hey, you’ve got to see this video. It’s hilarious and it shows EXACTLY what I’m talking about:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlyvLzIcTBc

  • Chris

    I reckon the same way as David learnt… time alone seeking God and revelling in the wonder of His creation. :) Putting ourselves and our desires to one side and meditating on His word, day and night, whilst we are working, eating, etc… I have found it so sad that many Churches teach wonderful things, but not many teach us to seek God on a daily basis, on our own without ‘go betweens’ to communicate with God for us. Leadership is a priveledge some people are given, but a relationship with God happens day by day when we are on our own, with only Him to talk to and rely on. We cannot blame our lack of communication with God on poor praise & worship leadership, it should come from within us & praise & worship leaders should only enhance our communication with Him.

  • Adam

    Artie, I respect your opinion and glad you have acknowledged the roll of the Holy Spirit, and welcome brother!
    I attend a church which primarily uses the “older” songs (hymns) and I am interested in your opinion: why is it that people feel the “newer” songs are more “relevant” than “older” (hymns) songs? When in fact most hymns were written to allow members of the church who sang them to learn them and to learn theology and their beliefs, because we know the science attached to learning by song. I love “contemporary” and the “newer” songs, i frequently listen to christian radio and enjoy a well done and spirit led “contemporary” worship service, but I am just curious as to what you mean by “relevant” when in fact most hymns are more relevant than the newer songs in my opinion.

    Again, welcome to the church brother!

  • Kristen

    Thanks, David. Perhaps it would have been more accurate to call your post, “Why laypeople have stopped singing in church.”

  • John

    Back in the day, we used hymn books or photocopied songbooks for newer songs. I tened to try and learn the songs so that I didnt have to use the book. Then I could close my eyes, sing and really worship. Overheads, then data projectors killed that. Today, when I am in a church where the sound system is so loud that I cannot hear myself sing, let alone anyone else, why would I bother, like, what is the point? Old hymns will always get more interaction simply because more people know them. Some cam also carry a great anointing. Contemporary songs seldom get the same participation unless they are regulars in that church. However, if they are about God instead of “I”, they may also have a powerful anointing. For guys, the other big killer is the chick leader or guy with a high voice singing in a key we cant do.

  • http://mondaymorningchristianity.blogspot.com Johny

    My wife and I have moved and are now attending a new church. In addition to lyrics, they post the sheet music on Ppt slides. It’s not as pretty as just the lyrics, but it means that, even on newer songs, people that can read music can sing. The church we attended before moving just displayed the lyrics, but printed a worship bulletin that included the sheet music of anything new. I’m the type of person that likes to sing, and this really helps me.

  • MikeG

    David, that was not only hilarious but it, ahh, kind of scary to think that this is what we seem to do.

  • MikeG

    JT, much truth to this. But we also know that our youth in large numbers disengage from the church for several years with some never coming back. Which begs the question, who will the church congregation be in 20 years? The elders who we give more musical preference too and driving away some mids and much of the youth? It’s a challenge to find a balance and criticism can’t be avoided. That doesn’t just go for the music ministry either, really.

    Doesn’t the church look to the elder’s as leaders in the church. And isn’t the last journey in The Map to sacrifice? For the sake of the future of the church, do the elder’s respect what “tastes” the younger ones choose that may keep them coming back 20 years and beyond?

  • MikeG

    “SO PLEASE if you are going to project your words onto the wall put the music up there too! At least those of us who enjoy singing at church will be able to make a go of it confidently and the others will then maybe chime in. ”

    I thought about that standing on my perch last Sunday. Would it be so hard with technologyy to have notes on the screen too?

    I remember a cartoon in my youth that at the end had a song to sing along with by following a bouncing ball. Our worship leader could tell the congregation, “Just follow the bouncing ball.”

  • MikeG

    I don’t think one learns to worship. Just like one doesn’t learn to love. It’s just there, man. The story of Jesus is taught. And if one understands who He is and what He did and what He sacrificed, worshipping because of the love for Him comes naturally. The gate, David, once entered, is where true worship begins and the heart holds the key to the gate.

  • Cathy

    You might try giving me some music if you want me to learn a new song. Just sayin’.

    And turn down the guitars and drums so I can actually hear the tune. You’d be surprised how helpful that is.

  • http://intothewesttexassun.blogspot.com/ Sweet J

    I enjoyed the article and found the comments very interesting as well. While most of the focus was on local services attended by your readers I believe the problem is a deeper one more closely linked to a culture shift driven by our computers, phones, tablets, and music players.

    “And so the church has returned to the 14th century” is essentially correct. While good song preparation (singable key, song cycles which help people to learn songs, a well rehearsed band that understands how to lead as well as perform, etc.) helps encourage participation there have to be participation points during the non-singing portions as well. A congregation that takes ownership of the service and participates throughout will rarely complain about it. They also become more missional in the process as they begin to share the joy they have experienced with others in their lives.

    I wrote a more detailed piece on this very subject a few weeks ago and if you or your readers are interested they can find it here:
    http://intothewesttexassun.blogspot.com/2011/02/trapped-words.html

    Thanks for letting me jump in!

  • JR2

    Some of the new songs we sing are what I call ‘coffee house’ songs. While they are great for a concert, they do not work so well for congregational singing. In addition, some of these songs are very light on Biblical truth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000234920652 Phil Kwok

    Every song is a new song to someone at some point. New Christians have to learn it all from scratch. If a new song or a drum that’s too loud is all it takes to make you uncomfortable, think of the new Christians, to whom everything is a new experience! They’re looking around and all they see are men and women who are SUPPOSED to be Christians, not worshiping.
    Stop making excuses that someone playing a guitar too loud or playing a song with lyrics you don’t know is getting in the way of your worship. That voice in the back of your head telling you not to sing? That’s not Jesus. That’s Satan.
    Again, I’m not saying that we as praise leaders don’t have a responsibility to get the congregation going. In fact, that is priority numero uno. But the thing that’s stopping the majority of people from singing ain’t the song, and that’s a barrier they need to get over themselves.

  • http://www.churchformen.com David Murrow

    Phil, I recently heard of a very trendy church plant that never sings the same song twice. New stuff every weekend. As you can guess, almost no one sings the songs, even though the lyrics are dutifully projected on the big screen.

    So who’s fault is it that no one is singing? The congregation or the worship leader?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000234920652 Phil Kwok

    Yes, that would definitely be the fault of the worship leader.
    But what is the perfect way to lead worship? You can’t do the same four songs every week, the congregation would walk out on you! And you definitely can’t play new songs all the time. What is the happy medium? On what periodical rotation should songs go through where the congregation becomes familiar with a song and yet doesn’t tire of it?
    Just as the hymnal probably angered those who were for the “professional choirs” back in the 1600s there, to say that “new worship” songs are all that’s wrong and that we should bring back “traditional hymns” is just a lot of finger pointing. And it’s exactly the type of nonsense why churches are dying in the Western world. Let’s ask the Christians in Korea or the People’s Republic of China what they think about this traditional and non traditional nonsense. But they’d be too busy actually worshiping!

  • http://www.churchformen.com David Murrow

    Sounds like we’re basically in agreement.

  • Cydnub

    Great points. I do believe the familiarity issue is very important, but is only 1/2 the story for why so few sing in contemporary churches of today. Also to be considered is the volume level of the music. When it is hitting 90+ decibels, it almost forces the worshiper to clam up because now it becomes a stage show and furthermore he can no longer hear his fellow worshipers (or himself) singing. What’s the use if he sings or not – no one can hear him. I notice in my church, they always throw one “acoustic” song in where it is just the stage crew singing (no instruments), but by the time the congregation wakes up and starts to sing, they are into the next rock blast of a song.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000234920652 Phil Kwok

    Your article has a lot of valid points of how praise leaders can get in the way of worship. I just don’t agree with the whole “this song, that song” hive mind that seems to be going on in the discussions.

  • http://www.churchformen.com David Murrow

    This is so true. When the music is too loud I usually find it difficult to sing along. I think it might be a natural autonomic reaction to loud noises. I should do some research…

  • Randy O’Neal

    Sorry, but I have to disagree to a point. When the music being sung is a love song to Jesus, music like this can make a guy’s skin crawl – especially an unbeliever – and especially some contemporary songs where – as someone else aptly pointed out – you could substitute “Baby” for “Jesus” and hit the top 40. Do we love him? Absolutely. But there IS a gender-specific component to all of this and to ignore or downplay it is to turn a blind eye to it. It doesn’t mean those songs aren’t OK… and it doesn’t mean women are to blame. Not at all. But it does mean we as leaders within our church – especially those of us involved in leading worship – need to think through the ramifications of some of the music we play/sing. We need to be sensitive to the leadership of the Holy Spirit first and foremost… and the music we are led to lead others in should follow in kind. A part of that preparation should be a prayerful review of what we are playing and singing to ensure we’re not creating gender barriers in our worship too.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_DT33QGDIKGRCRGY4I2XXKDG7YA L V

    Hymnhuggers who complain about the repetitive nature of modern praise songs may want to recall certain standards of their youth such as “Blessed be the Name” and “Power in the Blood.”

    I don’t believe men in the church are opposed to trying new songs. The problem is more practical. Many of us are not musical geniuses – or even musically competent – and most of us have a vocal range closer to James Earl Jones than Axl Rose. When the only people leading the songs are females or men who seemingly skipped over puberty, it is difficult for many men to have any clue as to what to sing. Baritones and basses have essentially been banned from worship music, and certainly have been from leading it.

  • Ivor

    Nope, wrong again. I have open forums with my congregates to seek their input on the music.
    My responsibility is to lead them into worship, not give them a good show or rationalize my need to play guitar.
    and be careful lobbing Satan’s name about because people don’t agree with your POV.
    Try looking at your position in the church as a servant who leads, rather than forcing a point by telling others the problem is in their head not your inability to meet people where they are.

  • Ivor

    Selfish…? really?
    That’s a bit harsh.
    Selfish.

  • Ivor

    Nice, thought out piece of work! Thanks!

  • Ivor

    I think it’s a learned thing through practice, honed through humility in thanks to God. We learn to say, Thanks” when we realize what we have been given. That may take instruction from our churches, pastors, other people and of course, The Word. Having been raised in a boring, banal, lifeless church, that I attended every week, I had to learn to let go and really enjoy worship. I try and translate that joy to others, and let them know, it’s okay to enjoy your time in worship to God.

  • Ivor

    No, I think the name is just fine. You said, “Women can live with the lack of challenge because there are other avenues for them to relate, where there aren’t for men.” is narrow, and frankly, insulting. I am new to this blog, (my wife sent me the link) I haven’t seen anyone finger point to women being a problem here. I think men should have a place to relate and women should be strong enough to “have their avenues.” I am a music minister and need fresh insight to this calling. This page deals with issues frankly. Thanks for the forum.

  • Ivor

    That’s a lot of what I do. Bump the tempo up a bit, just a bit, encourage all to join in on the moment, prayerfully consider the moment and keep in contact with the congregation.

  • David

    Whether old or new, music must resonate with the heart. I tend to like newer music simply because it gets beyond my ear and therefore into my heart. While our goal is to worship, it’s difficult to do so when the songs register on the death chart. Unfortunately, this is what singing from a hymnal does to me. It simply doesn’t make it past my ear, let alone to my lips. I cannot help it; it is simply an involuntary reaction to a stale sound. However, with that said, I do understand the opposite end of the spectrum when a contemporary song has become the “new traditional”, beaten to death, or contain lyrics and doctrine that go no deeper than twinkle twinkle little star. Where are today’s artists who will marry solid singable lyrics with smooth quality sound … in other words, with music that resonates in the ear, words that minister to the soul, and a song that stirs the heart and makes it “want” to sing to God. This is what I long to hear … and this is what I long to sing. But I see little of it. Perhaps I’m guilty of wanting a reality that isn’t there. If only Journey and Steve Perry would have sang for Christ back in the day, where would be now? :o )

  • David

    Personally I like a good lead guitar who is ‘really’ talented (Neal Schon from the Journey of old for example). On the contemporary Christian music scene, some of it is good and some of it isn’t. Some of it has a really good sound quality while other groups just sound like girly pop-rock. On the other hand you wonder if some of their lyrics were written by the local youth group. I think our goal is straightforward. How do we convince the contemporary Christian music industry (which drives our local worship – It’s either them or hymns) to focus on “worship” music with solid singable lyrics but without decreasing the quality of sound. I.E. increase the worship and singability while also continuing to increase the quality of the music. Currently there are no perfect examples, but when Third Day’s first few albums were closer to the mark.

  • LwS

    Having traveled and worshiped in many churches, styles and settings, I truly believe it isn’t the songs, music genre, or the repetition of the songs today, as much as it is the capability and focus of the worship leaders. In too many situations the best musician is selected to lead and they aren’t necessarily the best “corporate worship” leader. Just as the best theologian doesn’t make the best pastor, or speaker.

    Too often Worship leaders are allowed to “mold” the worship time to their “bent” and pastors and leadership that are unfamiliar with that world don’t, or can’t, help mold what worship time should look like. If the worship leader (and his/her band mates) loves to “perform”, then worship time will look and feel like a performance. If they are an “introspective” musician, then often they will appear to be up there having there own worship time, with their eyes closed and just them having their own personal experience.

    I have have experienced the exact same songs, in many various settings and the worship experience is completely different, based on the abilities of the worship leader. I have enjoyed traditional hymns that were rearranged by a capable musician to give a contemporary feel and I have suffered through a usually very enjoyable contemporary worship song, with a leader not blessed with corporate worship skills.

    So my conclusion is that it is less about the hymnals and songs as it is the skill and styles that we, “the church and leaders”, have let run the worship time … often because of our lack of confidence or intimidation by a strong “musician”.

    Let’s not blame the music!

  • Sarah-Kate*

    EX-CELLENT! :-) Now, I don’t feel bad (inferior) about the way I lead worship and the songs I do. :-) THANK YOU! Seriously. THANK YOU.

  • Bryan

    David, the other issue is the feminine lyrics. “I just want to love you and pour my oil out on your feet sweet Jesus”. I have a hard time singing that.

  • Bryan

    I agree with you about the “boyfriend Jesus” songs. And what I don’t understand is this: our worship leader is a man. And many of the boyfriend Jesus songs on “Christian Hit Radio” are sung by male bands, or male soloists. I really just don’t understand this. I had someone today to basically tell me that I need to learn to “intimately” know Jesus. I ain’t there yet, and not sure that I want to go down that road, whatever that means. Why can’t we have worship songs like “We Are The Champions”? Change the words a little, but we are champions in Christ aren’t we?

  • Chuck Rentz

    David,

    I found your artical about why men don’t sing in church to have failed to make the point. I also find your article to add unnecessary personal opinion into the generational gap in woship (and the worship war conflict) that was unhelpful.

    The troubles with men have more to do with Christ being Lord in their lives and less about how they are led by any style of worship music.

    Please reconsider your comments and ask yourself the question, “What would cause any man to truly follow Christ?” You see, whether rock band or classical hymn leadership, men without Christ as Lord have nothing to sing about.

    Chuck Rentz
    Burlington Alliance Church
    Burlington, WA